carmina vs meermin sizing

Here you'll find an extensive sizing chart for Goodyear welted shoes from Skolyx, Yanko and TLB Mallorca. Ill be reviewing them separately, as theyre more similar to other shoes weve covered. Here in the States, the mark-up on most of these brands, when one can get them, tends to be breathtaking. Snug toe box, foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes significant bowing. Carmina shoes are more comfortable, stable, flexible, durable, and stylish than the Meermin shoes. I still recall trying them for the first time after having worn Carmina for some years and noticed the difference instantly. Alden Barrie (lined shell): 10D, a little snug at the big toe but great in the ball and very supportive overall. It would be nice to see more posts on the different plateaus (?) Anyone that gets these Carmina shoes for their wardrobe would be getting some of the best style statements of their lives. I have had a painted patina on several shoes see Berluti here, Dandy here, Carreducker here and G&G here. What struck a cord for me is consistency of (most) english manufacturers. Their prices and quality is a good balance. You may learn more here. What I had in mind though was a roundup like this one with Jespers input. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. They last forever, but unfortunately they are even stiffer than Meermin shoes (really didnt like those), and take a year or two to wear in. I also have a pair of Loding chelsea boots (and other Loding things) I think in the end theyre too narrow for me. Oscar - 8 UK Carmina - Rain - 7.5 UK J. Fitzpatrick - TMG - 7.5 UK Meermin - Rui - 7.5 . The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. I absolutely could not go a half-size down. Unfortunately they offer less Goodyear welted shoes these days. Allen Edmonds on the other hand has been declining in quality. Vass (via Ascot) here. https://eu.jmweston.com/en/collections/bottines-homme/products/edouard-chukka-boot-homme-cuir-veau-velours-marron-fonce, Thats certainly a risk with some French brands, but not usually with Weston. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'footslide_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_13',107,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-3-0');Let us see what Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes look like at first glance: One of the most elegant shoes out there today is the Carmina shoes. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. Ive found having slowly worked my way up the chain that in terms of value for money, its Cheaney, Trickers and Alfred Sargent which have ultimately paid off. I cant really comment Im afraid Sebastian, having never owned any. 7.5UK fits well with thicker socks. Berwick has become very popular in recent years, particularly in Asia, Russia and elsewhere. I typically shy away from the lighter browns etc.. and thought this might be a good alternative and could be quite versatile. But whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. Is higher volume though. I feel much less tired in my feet after a long day, and if one have a bit problematic feet it will be an even bigger difference.. They may not be top tier but they certainly are hard wearing. Hence, vanity wins (maybe). Comfortable out of the box and have continued to be excellent. I think I could also safely do this last in in 9.5, but I'm not trying to wear my boots as tight as possible. Thankfully, that isnt true of all high end companies that Ive experienced and, in general, I have found that the quality of the service matches that of the product. As someone who has purchased a few of these brands, I found this article to be very interesting and accurate. There's a tiny bit more room at the ball too now. very lucky to have bought 8 pairs of EG at a big discount so my shoe cupboard is overflowing and needs to be trimmed now So if there is a middle man, its often the brand. The Jermyn Street stores are run by a franchisee. Particularly I struggle with the heel which I find very wide with most English makers. My right foot always had some heel slip even with the laces pulled very tight and a tongue pad. Giro bike shoes: 45.5 EU - Great fit. I would also like to mention that apart from PS, I also read Jesper Ingevaldsson, who was featured in this article, (www.shoegazing.com) and Justin FitzPatrick (www.theshoesnobblog.com). Heel to ball fits much like Barrie 9.5D, with a tiny bit more volume, but toe box tapers more sharply from both sides. Its got a bit of a shorter toe relative to the heel to ball. Seems to be a popular thing to write now. Really? Meermin Hiro 8.5E UK: Good fit overall, snug around the ball without being tight and toes are less cramped than I expected with how the last looks. Im a long term Crockett and Jones customer I buy main line and handgrade (I prefer the handgrade for the softness of the leather and the whole leather inner, which feels lovely). * **Alden Aberdeen** 9D loosened up a bit with wear, * **Alden Van** 8.5D comfortable in shell, * **Antonio Meccariello Aeris Soft Square** 8.5UK excellent fit, * **Antonio Meccariello Chisel II** 8.5UK bit loose all round, I suspect half a size down would have fit better but a become a bit tight at the pinky toe, * **Berwick1707 240** 42EU quite snug all round, perfect for a summer loafer, * **Carlos Santos 1944/r1s** 8UK fantastic loafer fit, * **Carlos Santos 401/s** 8UK forefoot a bit roomy, * **Carmina Pina** 8UK too much heel slip for a loafer, * **Carmina Simpson** 8.5UK instep too low, * **Clematis Ginza unknown oxford last** 8UK (made by Joe Works, also too low an instep), * **Common Projects Achilles Low** 41EU Fits but toe box feels too low, * **Common Projects Achilles Low** 42EU Great fit, * **Crockett & Jones 314** 8EUK snug all round, not much toe room, * **Edward Green 184** 8.5UK fantastic loafer fit. Id like to add a little comment on the Vietnam shoe makers here. Wearing socks, stand on a piece of paper with your feet against the wall. I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. To me, the leather feels similar to Carmina, though possibly even stiffer and more inflexible. Being cheaper is an objective description of price. TLB is from Mallorca, like Carmina, but is only a few years old and is trying to gain a similar reputation. Red Wing Iron Rangers (Last 8): 10D, forefoot stretched to be very comfortable. Most shoes that say theyre made in the Almansa area of Spain are made by Sendra.. I cant comment as to what anything is like higher up the scale but they are both the best looking and most comfortable shoes I own (more than my hiking boots or running shoes). Carmina shoes are made with classy Shell Cordovan Leather that is really elegant and unique. It might be somewhat boring, but the greatest shoe design can be quite a disappointment when theres puckering on seams, marks on the leather or misaligned stitching. They are extremely comfortable and very good value in my opinion. Although the vast majority of my formal clothes over the last 40+ years have been bespoke, I have never seen or felt the need to go bespoke on shoes. Just got re-measured last week after losing some weight (again), Im standing in between 10.5 C/D. It's a strange feeling last, but I can make it work. All leather if even sanded a tiny bit to remove flaws in the skin is corrected. No idea what size I'd need to make this last work but I'd guess something like 9.5EE. Travel Shoes Poll: What shoes do you bring with you on short trips? All Enzos were tried as oxfords and have comfortable insteps with no gap, * **Fugashin Saigon unknown wholecut last** 8UK comfortable, good instep for oxford, * **Gaziano Girling DG70** 8.5EUK comfortable. The last is generally nicer, finer finishing elements are nicer, fewer corners are cut in certain areas, etc. A very useful piece for me as Im slowly getting into the joys of proper shoes. Rancourt 800 9D: Great fit. Although it may be difficult to clearly see from the photos online, could I ask what you think of their the last/design of their chukka boots? Other than more subjective things like style, it's fair to say this is the most consistent difference between English and Spanish shoes. In the past, I would spend under $300 on an item without really thinking twice about it but once I started keeping track, I began to notice that all these expenditures (which were often impulse buys or prompted by sales) were adding up to several thousand dollars a year. Very few English RTW offer much in the way of narrow lasts. Rancourt 114 9D: Great fit sometimes. The alternative is leather board read the rest of the article and youll see it. To put JC on the same shelf as JL, EG, STC and the like is certainly a stretch. It takes days to sift through the carmina thread to even know relatively what size to buy. Wide midfoot, but a touch low instep which translates to average volume, just squashed a bit down. Its why Ive avoided buying from them. Thats a point worth emphasising. CJ or Alden or even something slightly lower end like Lof & Tung that is made more tastefully) and higher end makers (e.g. Spain level 2: Berwick, Sendra and Meermin. Really useful local knowledge, thanks David. New product releases, daily discussion and community building with a common interest in quality footwear. The point about corrected Vs full grain leathers is not a meaningful distinction. It is not surprising for people to give high praises to the Carmina shoes due to their high durability and quality build-up. *Although I trust Jespers impartiality, it needs to be stated that he now works for Skolyx, which has its own shoe brand and sells other shoes. However, I would recommend ones like TLB and Skolyx that I have had experience with. The Shelby boot has a lower instep as a result of the pattern as well. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. D. C. D. Medium. They can be found on many websites for less than 300( e.g. Id not have worn them in wet conditions though. Gaziano & Girling MH71: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling GG06: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling KN14: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling DG70: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano . Merrell Vapor Glove: 10D, no issues since there's barely any structure. Also, the chunky sole and derby construction arent that suited to suits. Maybe something in the weight of the shoes or its balance, but nothing apparent in construction. * **Gaziano Girling TG73** 8.5EUK comfortable but slight pinching at pinky toe, * **Grant Stone Leo** 8.5D super comfortable boot last, bit roomy, * **Joe Works JOE-0** 8UK instep too low - v gap in oxford laces, * **Loake Capital** 8UK snug with room at the toe, perfect fit, * **Lof and Tung S** 8UK great fit though instep is perhaps a bit high, * **Mattina N** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain, * **Mattina C** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain. One of the biggest such sites in the world, it receives up to 500,000 page views a month. Carminas guidance is down by half for shell or for unlined , in all lasts. Foster & Son get this so much better with their RTW. Normal arch/instep. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Viberg 2030: 10 - Good fit. She tried Orbans but they were stiff as hell. I definitely enjoy the articles with the highest quality makes but its nice to have a change of pace as well, especially if its going to help me make a decision on something Im likely to buy. It may not display this or other websites correctly. That may change in the future though, with the higher-end ones like Miyagi Kogyo trying to make it abroad. There might be a wide heel seat, for example, but then even some expensive English shoes like John Lobb have that.. Its an entirely stupid thing to say, not least because most of the leather used on the soles of English shoes are from European tanneries. Jesper's information was based on information by two Carmina retailers. 1 down the toe could be getting very short. Tanks, if you will. Im not the only one. Same thing is true at a luxury level. I was about to replace my decades old AE McAllisters with a new one, but upon inspection, the newer shoe (same model) had wonky stitching and sloppy finishing. A good pair of these would really satisfy your footwear style needs for a really long time. Viberg 2050 9: The E width of this last is still unreleased, but its what I would likely do for another pair in this last. However, always be careful about brands that give the impression their leather is the same quality as the top makers. * **Midas Bootmaker Landshaker** 42EU excellent fit with room to wiggle toes in medium socks. Ive decided to get a pair of loafers, which Id wear with flannels, chinos, dark denim and (occasionally) shorts. Carmina shoes are really great shoes that help you to take your style to a whole new level. 2. I have to disagree. Viberg 2040 8.5: No variable widths for this last. Overall, Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes. Those two are quite similar, in that they both have pretty large marketing budgets, run their own retail, and have ridden the wave of classic menswear in the past few years. Perhaps I need to re-examine what value I place on shoes. very snug in the toes. Many thanks for your prompt response most helpful. Cheers, H. While I havent worn Prada or Ferragamo, I can be quite certain that they will be worse value for money than those mentioned here. Some can only be purchased at high upcharge compared to what they cost in Europe, while some can be bought from European retailers with free shipping, VAT deducted and no customs charge (as long as below $800) so they come out 15-20% cheaper than they cost in Europe. Finally, its worth noting that they have a very robust MTO program where customers can customize lasts and detailing, and they also use a lot of crust calf, where other makers on this list (besides possibly the Asian ones) only use aniline. They're also very flexible to work with. * **Thomas George Popes** 7.5UK quite snug, grips heel well but pinches the toes a bit. Lofgren 110: Im aware that its not polite anymore to cherish them, but the Steadfast Chukka in 9.5 is my best fitting shoe ever. NWT Pual Smith Linen, Cotton & Silk Blend Neck Tie in Navy w/ White Polka Dots from MR Porter, New w/ Tag $200+ Brioni Italian Made Woven Silk Purple Paisley Neck Tie from Bergdorf Goodman, Vintage Dunhill English Made Black Leather Long Wallet. I'd still stick with your usual 2030 size. Thank you for this listing Simon. "The quality control isnt quite as good as the English as well.. As Im a women who is looking for well made leather shoes, I have even smaller heels than the male feet in comparison to feet length. Exceptional quality and the best quality shoes I own. In that regard, let me plug TLB as a particularly sound value proposition. Thanks Aidan. Yes they do take a while to break in, but once they were, they ended up being just as comfortable as all my other GYW shoes. Slightly low instep and volume. You know what youre getting. Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. Their price seems similar to or slightly higher than C&J Handgrade collections but I wasnt sure as they are a French brand. * **Oriental Shoemaker unknown oxford last** 8.5US is comfortable but instep is too low. . Good engineer last and terrible service boot, there's a reason they never went production on em. Maybe this section could be titled North America rather than United States. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. Last month, Swedish shoe brand Myrqvist (above) sent me a pair of their loafers to try. All one had to do is insert a sole liner, of wear thicker socks. Youre better off looking at the tannery the leather came from and if it had a recognizable leather name (cxl for example) but even within that there are gradations on the product from the same tannery. and maybe as far as a 37 in the Tanino, though that is a very rare size. Fit seemed good at first but toe box is just too narrow for extended wear. Barrie: 10D (I might be able to pull 9.5 with thin socks), 9.5 E, Tuesday split toe boots (no last name): 9.5, Borneo: 42 EU (snug fit with plenty room for toe to wiggle with medium socks), Kujang: 42.5 EU (snug fit with medium socks), 325: 9.5 UK (had to re-purchase just to recall my size), 365: 9 UK (snug with medium socks, would probably be clown looking if I went 9.5, but who knows), Military: 44 EU (had to throw thick socks for this, but no way I could pull 43, the weirdest fitting last Ive ever had), 4497: 9.5 UK fitting 6 (could probably pull 9 UK or same size but 5 fitting instead), 2020: 9.5 (with medium socks it fit snug). Plain black Oxfords from Churchs who are near the rail station. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Frankly, I wouldnt wear anything else. Actually, given the reader survey we did last year and how much the average reader earns and spends, I wouldnt be surprised if most do spend that regularly on their shoes. I converted my US size to UK and got that one, should have done 1/2 down from UK. Again, a big thank you to Simon and Jesper for the article. Because my older Carmina heel stiffener are longer and substantial that the newer ones. They make shell cordovan shoes and boots for under $450 (sometimes as cheap as $350 ), which is basically unheard of in 2019. Meermin offers loafers in simple colours of black, brown, copper, tan, and navy. Not sure I'd feel the same today. My C&J 337 is a bit loose in 10UK but too tight in 9.5UK; my Carmina Simpson Oxford is comfortably snug in 10UK (which is how I like my shoes to fit.) Jason: Thats a real shame. Myrqvist, which we mentioned at the start, is one of these and uses fairly good raw materials - sourced from well-known tanneries like Du Puy in France. The alternative was to shut out the market of men with wider feet. If anything, I would say last and design are the least obvious things they are the easiest ones to mimic. Sure David. second chance thread), https://www.instagram.com/sartorially_inclined/, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/wholecut-boots-black-boxcalf-80518, Carmina Green Shell Cordovan Frankenstitch Captoe Jumper Boot 10.5eee(uk) detroit last, RM Williams Comfort Craftsman or Carmina (Rain Last) Chelsea, *SOLD* Carmina Bourbon Shell Cordovan NST boot 8UK Forest last, Alden Color 4 Shell Cordovan Chukkas - Barrie last size 10 D, Alden x Leffot Saddle Shoe - Unglazed Cigar Shell Cordovan and Snuff Suede - 8D Barrie Last. RON 9: Terrible fit. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. Loake, Barker, Cheaney, etc. Off sale they come in at about 380 per pair (sale price 225) and they have a great re-furb service where for 80, theyll send them back to you as good as new. And nice finishing and detailing as you mentioned. 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