worst 380 pistols

I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. I challange anyone to break down the Pico and compare all parts to any of the Aluminum Chassis Pocket guns. I would bet my life on this smallish, nice looking pistol. They sent me a replacement gun that wouldnt chamber the 1st round. Or had a bad exp. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. He talks about having to yank the Mag. For its purpose, NOT Bullseye competition, it is a fine gun. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. Im not saying every single person who votes needs to leave a full, detailed review, but encouraging people to at least leave a couple pros/cons would be most helpful. I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. NOPE! until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. None. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. . Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. Bersa Thunder 5. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. Thats not exactly The TRUTH About Guns. The double 1911 also has ratings. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. I like its feel in my hand. Great little pistol. My Kahr is a nice but, but Finicky as heck. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Lets find out by comparing it to the original LCP. When it comes to a worst list omitting anything made by Kel Tec is a mistake. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). The sccy is a great budget pistol. Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. I just went through your site and clicked a one star on every gun over $500 and a 10 star on every gun under $500 with my only basis being I dont currently have an expendable $500 in my pocket and I dont like them because they are out of my budget Just kidding, I didnt, but anyone out there could do it, which is why I think your system is incredibly flawed by not at least holding reviewers to having to list a reason. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. So now I have a paperweight in the shape of a gun ! AMEN . Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. Those were the worst. Broke the ejector. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. Yes it did. Which is good compared to many overpriced semi auto pistols which are not as dependable. Expand your opinion to something legitimate and/or constructive with first hand knowledge. Remember, these are life-or-death guns, not gopher guns or race guns. With pocket pistols you get so much more in terms of everything for every little uptick in size you go. No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. Women need to be told about the woman in Birmingham who was being robbed and pulled out a gun. Their guns get copied because George Kelgren never copyrighted the designs. Have you put more than a box through it? My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). At my handgun review and rating site, gunsgunsguns.net, we offer star ratings on a scale of 110 for every gun featured on the site. Note to self, Get to the range! Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. Sean, I cannot find documentation of John Lott having bought reviews on Amazon. Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. The gun works incredibly well if you use the recommend FMJ ammo as listed in the manual. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. Personally have no experience with them but it is to each his own and have heard nothing but good about these pistols. More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. . The trigger reset does suck but its still a great gun. Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. He says it is a blunder. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. I wouldnt bother to get that info from this site. The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. You get two shots, a single-action-only That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. Ive heard too many bad comments and complaints about the I.O. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. (I like Glocks, but between the trigger and the slimness of the Kahr, Im a convert) My least favorite aspect of the CM40, aside from the revolver-like capacity, is the stiffness of the slide spring. This list would have been more valid if it had included the KIMBER SOLO, This website is better than the comedy channel. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. then hold slide to the rear for 1 second before you hear things fall into place? The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". Yea James, if you look the SCCY gets like 4.3 stars the best out of this bunch and has the one of the higest vote stats and whats the comment from the author oh this gun stinks based on what? What utter nonsense! I certainly wouldnt be happy. And that considering the Kahr is a fine gun. Ive never seen one that ran well or was anything but unpleasant to shoot, provided you can get more than one round off without a misfeed. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. If one MUST have a 9mm pocket gun, then the Kahr PM9/CM9 is really the only choice. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. This is NOT a target gun. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! I laughed when I got to the CM40. Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. You can buy 1911s now. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. Ive heard more than a handful of DEALERS who rate it a much better overall weapon than the KelTec which it resembles, and the machining does appear superior in my estimation. Its pretty clear why. It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. The very concealable gun has a barrel length of only 2.5 inches. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. We indicate sponsored content as such. Bodyguard were well rated. Solid with FMJ round nose once broken in, will NOT feed hollow points until after a trip back to the factory. These are last resort concealment guns with a lot of punch in a small package. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. OMG! But still, Im sure there are worse ones. For College Campuses! Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. The Pico is a great gun. And we have to like it enough to carry it. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. Any failure rates? I think the wheel guns are less likely to have a problem. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. I actually have the cm9 and cw380 both and never an issue with either one. Its almost like clockwork, at about the 5th round itll turn the shell sideways then the returning bolt will grab it. The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. How is it possibly at the top of the list? This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. Probably ran 150 round through it so far. As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. Far too many people have shot themselves or objects in their house loading a NAA revolver because they didnt pay attention to safety instructions. I met Leghorn at a Range Day last year and he knows little about handling a weapon. The number of ratings is what sold his other books. Sleek design, totally snag proof. But with the right technique and practice, its fine. I must be the unicorn master then, because I own each of the firearms listed, except the Hellcat, (I have never heard of it before this article) and have never had an issue with any of them. He didnt even require them to be positive. Baby glocks seem like an attractive option as at least they have a somewhat normal trigger w/ a normal length of pull. The Kahr is an excellent unit and I have years of experience with them over Tens of Thousands of rounds fired. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. Ruger listened to the criticism, which resulted in the birth of the LCP II. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. Even the author of this article merely speculates, at times, as to why the readers voted as they did. WebBest 9mm Concealed Carry (CCW) Pistol - SIG Sauer P365. Diamondback has been plagued by trouble. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. The grip is also slightly enlarged in order to get a better grip, with an improved stippling job as well to better accommodate wet or slippery conditions. Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. But thats just me Not everyone places as much weight on user ratings as I do. Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. The trigger guard on the LCP has also been enlarged in order to accommodate a gloved finger without risking pulling the trigger. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. Go to Genitron and compare.And very little muzzle flip. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. Glad I didnt see mine. Oh not to mention Sccy has great The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. I would very much like to see your proof/examples. they do have a 200 round break in that they tell you to expect possible fails also. I liked the gun otherwise, but the awful trigger was a total deal breaker for me. No, maybe we are focusing on the self promotion IN CONJUNCTION with the very questionable methods of research and conclusions drawn from them. Horrible, awful trigger. Like a great car or movie, a great firearm can become a true classic. they gladly took it back and said the Cobra .380 was selling like hotcakes. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. Ive no complaints. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. Taurus 738: Price $355.66. I have two of the Picos. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. Probably have about 2500 rounds through it. How is this journalisim? Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. As in best gun LOL. either love or hate. Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. Its is almost universally panned from young guys working behind the counter at Academy Sports to anyone who works in local gun shops. In a fight you wont notice it. Both have been dependable and will function without a flaw on anything I have tried. Lol, a very nice DAO, the new Gen is much lighter. The Beretta APX has a 4.4 rating from 22 votes It sucks so hard that its suckage transcends space and time. Presenting statistics like this isnt representative of the actual quality of the product, but the opinion of those who voted. Anyway, all just my opinion here. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. the fact you just dont like it? Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? Man, all I can say is when you mentioned the Pico, you sure messed up on that one. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. Best 380 Ive ever had. Id limit my search to guns rated north of 6.0 on my surveyand Id stay far away from the below-average offerings from Jimenez, Boberg, NAA, MasterPiece, etc. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. It pains me to include the DB380 on this list because I bought one acouple years ago. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. Forget about dropping the mag with the shooting hand, cause it aint happening. Having visited that site, I dont think their rating system really gives me enough information to choose between firearms. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. Once in a great while, a firearm becomes so popular that it becomes a cultural icon. Recoil was worse on the 380 than the 9. Maybe if there was an () in theremaybe that might work like Tpanga or Gnai or some such name. To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! And worst and I do mean worst of all is the Magazine release, which might be the most poorly placed, poorly designed and impossible mag release on any gun ive ever handled. And than some. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. These arent big enough vote pools anyway. The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. Ruger sells the LCP II with a neoprene pocket holster (which has the Ruger logo on it), and it actually works quite well. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. ! Silver tip p+ for carry, or whatever local law enforcement carries. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. The Type 94 Shiki Kenju. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. I put the new glock style slide release on mine and it is a little slimmer now. Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. Will eventually add a CW380 as a BUG and for times when the CM40 is just too big ha ha. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. And surely have not shot one or very little. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. like any gun it can have its issues so can the SCCY but if you really look at it, compact light and around $219 plus S&H and ffl fees. I just hated the trigger. The Sccy gets a 4.3 rating and it stinks? After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. Just keep shooting your pistol. I limited this list to the bottom six guns to reduce room for disagreement and keep it simple. Painful to shoot, yes, but thats what you get when the gun barely weighs more than the bullet it fires. Literally, it is.) Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. Bought it brand new. I think it would have to be the 2mm Kolibri. Its the worlds smallest handgun, and develops just 4 joules of muzzle energy. Its not a joke weapon Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. Does this guy have any gun expertise? Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. Its very much a personal decision then, based on fit, function, and how well it shoots. I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Thanks for your post. I have put about 2000 rounds through them 100% reliable so far. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. Built like a tank. Also people need to fire them at the range. So special, they ride the short bus. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. Everything they make are just wrought with problems. Too small, too weak, too much plastic. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. In +P it hurt my hand, so I went to regular 38 spcl. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. He says the trigger is horrible? I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). Its tight, even well after break-in. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. This article was amateurishly conceived and executed, even if only judging by the hit-piece commentary on the SCCY. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. Like others, I am a bit surprised by the poor showing of the Beretta. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. Do not yank the magazine friends. Actually bought a second one. I had an occasional ejection glitch in mine when I first got it, but the company paid to have it shipped back to them for adjustment, and the piece hasnt hiccupped a single time, since. There are many different 380 pistol options, but our favorites include the following: Ruger LCP II, Walther PK380, Kel-tec P3AT, Taurus Spectrum, and M&P Shield EZ. I really think you never did anything with the Pico other than Picking one up and then getting of the internet and posting without any knowledge of how to use the firearm. I love this gun for the price, and just because its not made by Glock means nothing to me. Super gun, works every time. The trigger is long and has some over travel but its very smooth. Really disappointed in how this was presented. Just like Fords. Or the Kahr in there? So the recoil is stout. Great sights, ability to change out to night sights and on and on. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. And buying likes is one definite way to abuse it. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. It smacks you hand, mostly due to the 2 finger grip. My shooting buddy has an LCP. He does not know how to use it. Its not. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. Otherwise you will just get a ton of, Wait, that gun is not a GLOCK! I broke the firing pin on the first day. 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